Wow this is a great article! People worry bout other people’s lives to much. Omg Jay is a mason…that changes EVERYTHING!!!

LMAO @ the baptism…

Great post, though… I was just reading an article about Hov’s alleged connection to the Illuminati and I was shaking my head in disgust at the author… they need to just let him do his thing and stop hatin’!

Kudos to the person who came up with the concept for this video. Great visuals and a concept that will keep Jay-Z’s name in the public’s mouth for a couple more weeks. Now, that’s marketing!

I don’t care if Jay-Z was sipping on swine flu vaccine. I like the dude’s music but that’s that. I could see if this was about Barry (I like to think I’m on a first-name nickname basis) with our president, but I’m at the age where rappers/singers/actors/vh1hoes/athletes/d-listersandfriends get put on my do-not-give-a-damn list. Let me know when they do something… I don’t know… significant to society’s advancement.

I honestly do not give it much thought because, well, I don’t care. And it escapes me why so many do. I’m a fan. I’ve been a Jay fan since I was 12. Know every lyric backward and forwards and not once have I ever questioned my spiritual beliefs because of it. Also, it’s not a secret that Jay’s not Christian. He blatantly said in a verse “No I’m not Christian, but I believe in God.” In my opinion, if Jay-Z upsets your spirituality in anyway, you may be a little too easily affected.

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I really enjoyed this piece, Michelle Hux. Like you, I think the debate is pointless and a clear indicator that more people in the world need to get a frikkin life. For one, who gives a ish what Jay is a part of? People spend so much time worrying about things like this that it’s frightening. Don’t ponder and speculate what a devil worshipper he may be while bumping his tracks while at the gym. I just don’t get why people care so much. If you believe something is against your morals or faith, then don’t support it, period. The fact is, whether knowingly or unknowingly, we all contribute to things that aren’t in line with our core values. We support companies and people that have their own ish under the table, but we don’t sit back and examine that. As you stated, listen to the music or don’t. Appreciate him as a hustler and businessman or not. Either way, shut the fuck about it. Jeesh.

Shots thrown at me because my friend was arguing heavy with me about it..but I think Skinny Black Girl said it best:

“In my opinion, if Jay-Z upsets your spirituality in anyway, you may be a little too easily affected.”

I could give a damn about anyone else’s business..just keeping making music and keep us talking..stay relevant..let’s get it

Look at you spitting that knowledge!

This article is amazing! My concern is notsomuch his affiliation but the message he’s trying to deliver. My soul aches for the youth and some adults as well who recite this music faithfully but have no idea what they’re transmitting. We can rap about the most expensive liquor and taking over the world when goodness knows there are greater works to be done! So if it takes deciphering the lyrics and they end up being parallel with demonic organizations then sobeit! I just have a natural thirst for truth and knowledge. Don’t necessarily care about the man himself.
Thanks again for the post!

Aight yall so listen…I keep seeing. dont worry about others peoples business, if your faith is strong it shouldnt affect you, and if you dont like it dont pay attention to it. But the fact of the matter is that all those ways of looking at this situation is a lazy, comfortable, safe, convenient, and truthfully an ungodly way at looking at this situation. I’ll explain.

dont worry about others peoples business: 1st of all half of the reason we have sites like “worldstarhiphop” “facebook” “twitter” “msmbc” “mixtape sites” “BLOGS” is becuase of OTHER PEOPLES BUSINESS. the basis of our personalities and what makes up who we are, Are the people around us. people dont give a damn about what you gotta say if they cant relate to something in the media or a general issue that will affect the reader. thats why people start blogs and why gossip sites are so extremely successful. because people really actually care about these larger-than-life people we call celeberties and there business.

if your faith is strong, dont worry about it, dont be so easily affected: the huge problem with that is that if you are God fearing faithful person then it is your DUTY to spread his word, and anyone and anything that goes against it for whatever reason (album sales, shock value, bla bla bla), it is our duty to step in and try and handle the situation. especially in todays world when a good influence ESPECIALLY in the black community is so desperately needed, to have one of the most if not The most influential person in the game constantly talking about freemasonry/illuminati/antichrist like material to the millions of people who buy and the billions of people who download the music. its a shame. so to sit back and say. “my faith is strong so it doesnt affect me” is basically saying “if your faith isnt strong, im not going to help you because im fine.” and that is just wrong.

dont support him: well obviously you shouldnt support anything you dont bleve in. but in this specific case. the only reason a person will not support him is becuase they are educated enough to have a reason NOT to support him. most arent educated enough and will continue to listen and sing along with jay z as he calls himself “h to the izzo v to the izza” in other words hova, in other words j hova, in other words Jehovah, n other words GOD. so these people keep singing along with him throwing up the freemason Roc sign chanting his name. and whats a chant?.. its praise, and what are they praising, the devil essentially.. now will all people who listen to jay z go to hell, obviously not, bcuz most dont kno what they are saying and chanting. BUT if they do, like the people who is readin this long ass comment are now responsible and knowlegable of this specific sin and if continued will have to answer to the real God.

somebody tell me im wrong?

lol no shots at you Ricky. I had already wrote this when I saw you guys arguing.

Well said.

Exactly. “If Jay-Z upsets your spirituality in anyway, you may be a little too easily affected.” Like you and Nickey-Ann said, there are plenty of other things out there that can shake our faith.. he’s just an artist. We’re giving him way too much credit.

Swine flu vaccine though? It’s an epidemic!! lol

Thank you, and great comment.

Marcellus, I actually agree with you. I know my opinion on this matter and I’d like to share it but I truly think in this case of Jay-Z there is no point. People are going to believe what they want. I could scream at the top of my lungs or even have a carefully and brilliantly crafted argument and I just think it would have no affect. Maybe that’s pessimistic of me but it’s also from experience.

BUT is staying neutral helpful. im a big fan of helping people. I like people to be helped, enlightened etc, and if i was an young person, with no father in the home like most of us are products of, i would appreciate as much good honest advice. i understand what yall are saying about no point in talking about it. But us not talking will give the green light to the ignorant to keep listening. is that right of us to do…

btw im not sayin start a campaign cuz we are too busy for that..but word of mouth is powerful!

True, true. Being neutral isn’t helpful at all but there are loads of other sites that go into great detail about this topic. I’m not nearly as educated on Masonry or the Illuminati as those people so I think it’s best to let them handle it. A google search can lead those who want to do some research in the right direction.

Wow..Marcellus came in here harder than he hits people on the football field.. (BC wassup) I just wanted to acknowledge that…that’s all…I now understand Marcellus’ view on everything though..makes a lot of sense..

That’s the last time you’ll be mentioning BC on this here website lol

I believe Jay is getting his inspiration and influence from sources that many of us would label as “dark”. Whether or not Jay has official membership in any secret, occult, or dark societies is the lesser topic. Someone mentioned that his latest video “on to the next one” is a genius marketing ploy to garner extra attention in the midst of numerous accusations that he is a part of the occult; this is a double-edged sword. I believe that it is an effective tool to feed human paranoia especially when it comes to increasing ones public stature and notoriety. I also believe that practicing too much of anything will lead to taking on the attributes of said practice; whether it’s knowingly or unknowingly. You play with fire long enough, you’re bound to get burned. You hang around bad company long enough and you’ll soon walk their path. I know you get my point. Throwing up your hands and saying who cares about what he believes in is an inexcusable and inept reaction. I assume many of you who have responsed are in the process of completing some form of higher learning, therefore you should be no stranger to academic dissection and analysis of evidence and formation of sound hypothesis. With that said, the evidence has been presented in overwhelming amounts. This brother has been led further and further astray as his career has progressed. It has happened to the best of Black figureheads. We’re human. But it is important to call someone on it when we notice the trend or that they cannot check themselves. Not trying to get too deep but Malcolm X checked himself and he was assassinated for it. Is Jay-z in too deep? Is he so far gone that he is afraid to turn back? Or maybe he doesn’t care due to the lucrative circumstances that have beset his career. No matter the conclusion you arrive at, we all see the questionable imagery in his work. The author has addressed both sides with her presentation of the “perseverence effect”. Again, the common thread is that we all see the same thing but arrive at different conclusions. So let me ask this. What are the things Jay-z has shown us in his latest body of work usually associated with?

Thank you Marcus that was well written…. another one for the good guys.

I look at it like this. Just like you said. Jay is not my family or friend. He is just a music artist who is here to entertain me. That all he is to me. I dnt say I am christian but I do believe in a god. And I hate when ppl say well why do you still listen to jay. I say “IF” jay is a mason and worships the devil, now what? I’m supposed to stop listening to the good music he produces. He would not convert me in any way. Why? Cause he is only an artist. I think killing ppl is wrong but if eminem killed a man I’d be like “man that dude is wrong. He’s crazy”. But that won’t stop me from popping in my marshall mathers lp. So remember they are just artist. If you like em you like em if you don’t you don’t. 

Nice blog Post MichelleHux!

Can we all agree the big issue is that our society is putting these celebrities on a pedestal while ignoring more important issues? I think there’s something wrong when we are caring more about Jay-Z’s (or any other Hollyweird talent’s) moves and not politicians/people of real influence. What it comes down to, for me, is that Jay-Z, despite his musical talent, is just that…a music artist.

I don’t care what he does because my attention is diverted elsewhere like what is going on with healthcare? What’s good with Dubai’s tallest tower being built even though their economy is in crisis? Where exactly is that money coming from? Where exactly are my taxes going? What new policies just got passed that are going to directly/indirectly affect people in my demographic? How does that decision help/hurt society in the long run? Why is the cost of education going up? Why are CEOs taking bailout money and buying chromed out cobs of corn? Any new developments in regards to civil rights?

We’re missing the point on bigger issues. Jay-Z or whatever the guy calls himself these days is just a rapper, no matter what his lyrics say. The guy represents a minute sector of what’s going on in the world, despite what current media outlets would like us to think. I swear Congress could pass legislation that could make slavery legal again and mofos would not know because they’re worrying about what Jay-Z is doing.

It’s 2010. We, the collective, need to stop giving these celebs power. Let’s combat this. Join me.

WOW!! Sabsthegreat in here heavy!!! (That’s BC thrice times for you)

I think I agree with Sabs the most right here…Nah I don’t think..I do..wow..I just reread the comment..that was official…

OK so yall are missin the point. The point is that If you want change Sabsthegreat than you are going to have to get many people going in one direction. What ever big movement that happens in our society is done in great numbers with mainly one figurehead leading and influencing the masses. Now if that leader is saying, love thy brother help thy neighbor bla bla bla then what are the people more likely to do. be helping and loving people. if that person only talking about greed, material things, evil, and bragging about how talented he is (jay z)…then people will become more and more greedy, materialistic self centerd people. bcuz from what the impressionable sees, thats how Jay z and many other rappers make it seem as to how they got to the top.

yes it is very true that he is just a rapper, just an entertainer, more importantly just a human and we should NOT put any more stock in him then n e other person. BUT that is just what he is to US, what seems like pretty well educated people with a great deal of common sense.

but like i said before, many aren’t as fortunate as us to have this frame of mind and are heavily influenced by that. pop culture chooses how we dress (skinny jeans), what we think is beautiful (thick woman) and how we talk (fashizzle my nizzle..i kno thas a corny xample). so to say he is JUST a rapper/entertainer is a sever understatement. he is a voice, that reaches millions adn influences millions and yes he wont affect you, but he will def affect the person next to you. and that matters. and thats why it is a big deal when jay spews this ignorance to the masses.

Woah. Shoutout to Dubai. Really, though. What’s up with that tower? That last sentence is the nail in the coffin. “We, the collective, need to stop giving these celebs power.” Got em.

I get what you’re saying but still agree with Sabs on this subject. Personally I have tried talking to people on this subject and I’m sure most of the people commenting here have as well.. what do you when you’re fighting a losing argument that is much less important than other things going on in the world right now? I think what Sabs is saying is instead of continuing focusing on this battle that is going nowhere, try to bring attention to other much more important issues like healthcare, etc…

healthcare is more important than a relationship with God..geez..

lol that is not at all what I was saying.

Great article! You provided some good points without pushing your viewpoint on the readers. BTW, Tupac was very much against the Illuminati. You can find some interviews online where he talks about this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAmhM3ZMQEQ 1:45 mark). He called his last album Killuminati to show his disdain for the org. KILL + Illumanti.

Woah, I didn’t know that. Thanks for that!

Sabs the reason we, and I’m referring to African Americans, must pay attention to artists like Jay while still keeping up to par with the issues you listed is because people like Jay see THEMSELVES as spokespeople/ figureheads. In turn, OTHERS recognize them as such; especially people from the outside looking in. My main supporting points are drawn from the following: remember when Oprah had her first rap artist as a guest? Who was it? It was Jay-z. Who comprises Oprah’s audience? EVERYONE. That day, EVERYONE heard Jay-z say that OUR GENERATION is cool with the word nigger because we changed the meaning. WOW. I did not know that my generation was successful at altering the etymology of a word championed and spread by white southerners since the 1600’s. Obviously you can tell I disagree and am upset with Jay voicing his uneducated and misrepresented opinion on a platform that reaches audiences across the globe. You see, other black people may know the real deal about the word. We know that behind closed doors or sometimes publicly, we still argue about the very existence of the word. The problem is there are people like, oh I don’t know, Fox News reporters who take his statements at full face value which give weight to comments made by people like Glenn Beck who think anyone should be able to use the word with no reprecussion because it does not mean the same thing as before. Do you remember when Cam’ron was on the O’reilly Factor? Did you see how ignorant he acted? Should I care? I’m not a rapper, so I shouldn’t care right? wrong. wrong. WRONG. I’m black first and foremost. That’s how I’m seen in America. Therefore whenever one of my fellow brethren is acting a fool, it makes ME look like a fool.

I like Marcellus’ view on the issue and don’t want to repeat people’s points, but Marcellus is right about how Jay is NOT just a rapper/ entertainer. Sabs, just like you stated we need to be concerned with where our tax money is going, why Dubai is building towers in a down economy, etc…we need to keep in mind that rap is a multi-BILLION dollar industry. Case in point, you don’t have to pay artists attention if you don’t want to, but please believe plenty others WILL and ARE because of the monetary implications.

So while you’re busy with your social blinders on and only paying attention to “bigger issues”, people are being misinformed about your behavior and interests because of arrogant artists like Jay speaking for YOU. And we wonder why is it that people are trying to dap us up at formal events and greeting us as “hommie” and “dawg”…and…ni- well, you feel me right playa? Had to get it from somewhere…

Marcus and Marcellus (even though this isn’t his comment), once again I completely get what you’re saying. Those who comment on this blog are not a representative sample of the average Jay-Z fan in my opinion. We’ve all formed our opinions based on facts and thought. With that said, this is the internet. What I expressed on this subject was the ineffectiveness of arguing whether or not Jay-Z is in association with secret societies. Not whether or not he is a powerful man. I stated clearly that he is powerful and that he’s going to do what he does. I also didn’t argue whether or not it was important to argue this. It is. But. My point overall was just over the internet I cannot see how it can be at all productive on my website to argue it when there are dozens of websites more informed on the subject and more qualified to argue one side or another. A simple youtube search will give you both sides of the argument. I didn’t think one more blog post about it would help anything. I still agree with Sabs that there are issues that actually affect our day to day lives that we just ignore and instead we get up in arms about something a rapper may or may not be associated with. Yes it’s important. But sometimes you have to choose your battles.

Kanye was a rapper on Oprah. Luda was on there as an actor and got no time. Was Common on there too? I know that’s not part of the argument but I’m just saying tho (Paul Wall)

Aside from the hooded sweatshirt with “Do what thou wilt” on it that Jay Z wore, check out this post by ‘Aleister Crowley 2012′ thanking Jay Z! http://ac2012.com/2010/01/05/thanks-jay-z/

My only hesitation to Marcellus’ points is that the “duty” he speaks of to spread christianity and “handle the situation” when things that oppose christianity come up has been the source of countless wars.. countless genocides.. i think in this day and age personal faith (which is what jesus truly preached) as opposed to the missionary style christianity that left countless cultures (including mine as an african american) in shambles.. ive spent all my life praying to a white jesus..

on Hov, i personally believe all the millionares in this country are apart of certain circles that ill never see, and have mad influence, simply because they have mad money. cant really avoid that… is the “On To The Next One” video weird as fuck? yes. Is it making me go crazy and murder my family? nah.. its just weird.

Illuminati! it is alive!!! Throw your Triangles up in the air!! lol

Glad I visit your site every once in a while and come across these posts. Probably the most insightful 5 minutes of my day. Looking forward to more.

Obviously, none of you actually know what a mason or freemasonry is. The mason is a fraternity that believe the bible as a symbol of divine law as well as its contents. The only sex that can become a mason is a male and the only way for a male to become a mason they have to swear to believe in a god but they dont have to say what god they believe in..and obviously the devil isnt a god but in fact is the actual opposite of one. They dont mention Jesus in mason literature because they dont want to affend other religious belief within it. That’s all